BN 20 Ink feed

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winktype
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BN 20 Ink feed

Post by winktype » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:13 pm

Hi all, bit of a problem with the BN 20 today, was changing the cyan ink cartridge and after inserting a new one, no ink came through. All other colours appeared fine, so on inspection I noticed that the fine hollow needle which enters the cartridge had bent double, thus not entering the cartridge at all. I managed to strip it down and thankfully still have my very first BN 20 which I keep for instances just like this. I took the part from the old machine and replaced the bent part and after a few cleans and many swear words, the ink started to come through again. Thankfully I had purged the old machine of all ink before retiring it. My question is, does anyone know what this part is called for future reference. I still have 4 more on the old machine, but it would be nice to know what it is called in case AI do need to order one. thank you.

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Re: BN 20 Ink feed

Post by Geoffhogarth » Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:22 pm

You cannot buy individual parts for the cart slots, I have been down that route already, the complete assembly costs about £130 from Roland delivered, the part number is 11659218 -00 HOLDER,I/C SC-500
This is a common assembly that fits a lot of Rolands.
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12807&p=33385#p33385

Hope this helps.
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Re: BN 20 Ink feed

Post by Chris Jarvis » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:04 am

winktype wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:13 pm
I managed to strip it down and thankfully still have my very first BN 20 which I keep for instances just like this.
What made your old BN-20 into a 'breaking for parts' machine, in the end?

I want to throw mine out of the window now, but it's too heavy to lift.

Chris

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Re: BN 20 Ink feed

Post by PhillyDee » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:47 am

Chris Jarvis wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:04 am
winktype wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:13 pm
I managed to strip it down and thankfully still have my very first BN 20 which I keep for instances just like this.
What made your old BN-20 into a 'breaking for parts' machine, in the end?

I want to throw mine out of the window now, but it's too heavy to lift.

Chris
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Re: BN 20 Ink feed

Post by winktype » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:11 pm

My first BN 20 did 5 very good years, but started to mix the metallic and black inks into a blurry black. I tried all sorts to fix it, clearing it out with the correct fluids etc, but then one morning I came to it and there was a big puddle of (expensive) metallic ink underneath. That was the end of it, so I cleaned it out and got another. I guess it may have been a pump, but I'm not sure, my problem was I was not in a position to call out a service engineer, so I just put it in the box that the new one came in and decided to keep it for spares. So far I've robbed 2 things from it, a media guide (an old one snapped) and this hollow needle ink feed. I'm glad I kept it as nearing retirement, I doubt I will be getting another. I know what you mean about too heavy to throw out of the window, could be worse though, you could have one of the bigger more expensive models! They are quite easy to strip down when needs must, so if I was going to get rid of one I would take various parts off and take them to the tip.

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Re: BN 20 Ink feed

Post by winktype » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:15 pm

Geoffhogarth wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:22 pm
You cannot buy individual parts for the cart slots, I have been down that route already, the complete assembly costs about £130 from Roland delivered, the part number is 11659218 -00 HOLDER,I/C SC-500
This is a common assembly that fits a lot of Rolands.
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12807&p=33385#p33385

Hope this helps.
Hello, thanks for the picture. I do not think they are the same assembly though. the BN 20 does not have the upper and lower plastic guides that look like plastic pencils.

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